Tiny Thoughts 16 — Imagine, if you will . . .

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. . . December 7, 1941. The nation is in shock. People are scared about a possible large-scale invasion and still reeling from a devastating attack on Pearl Harbor. An attack on a military installation and naval resources.

Those old enough can go back 23 years and remember what it was like on September 11, 2001. Those who lived it knew — with fatalistic certainty — that the world had changed. With some notable exceptions, the attack was widely condemned by most of the world.

One can undoubtedly ponder causality for both events, as many have, but I want to highlight one difference between those two events. Specifically, the fact that the Pearl Harbor attack was focused on military assets, and the 9/11 attack was focused on civilian targets.

While both events triggered wars, we can squint a bit and generalize that WW II was in no small part due to a worldwide economic crisis.

The 9/11 attack was not driven by economic needs. It was ideological . . . and celebrated by Palestinians and many Muslims in Arab countries.  

Jump forward to October 8, 2023, and you see Americans cheering the brutal slaughter of men, women, and children in the Hamas-led Palestinian attack on Israel’s border with Gaza on October 7, 2023.

Many of these protesters are too young to remember what it felt like witnessing the 9/11 attack. They cannot empathize with the insecurity it fosters. They cannot imagine the pain of the victim’s family and friends, shared by millions of people struggling to come to grips with the event.

Many of today’s pro-Hamas protesters weren’t even born when 9/11 happened.

. . . but I have no trouble imagining that, had they been alive back then, they would have been out in the streets with their jihadist pals chanting “Death to America!” even as smoke still rose from the ruins of the Twin Towers.

It demoralizes me, distresses me, and makes me lose hope for the world — but especially for the American experiment and its value — when I witness Americans or anyone supporting Hamas.

Even more so when I read about our elected representatives supporting Hamas. It points to a not insubstantial base of institutional sympathy for terrorists and not just misguided individuals searching for self-worth paid by the blood of others.

I hope it is profound ignorance and not outright hatred that has Americans chanting slogans like “From the river to the sea!“.

But I fear the worst because supporting this or that cause is one thing. It’s another to celebrate burning people alive, raping women, and killing kids and babies.

It takes someone exceptionally high on the despicable and inhumanity scale to rejoice about those acts.

My hope for it just being a result of ignorance and misguided good intentions moving these privileged Americans is waning, as they’ve repeatedly doubled down in their call for the extermination of Jews.

Of course, I also don’t rule out stupidity since many are the product of Universities that have eschewed learning for indoctrination and critical thinking for the joy of simplistic slogans not of their making.

Note: THIS makes for interesting reading.

Think about it; the bodies of Israeli men, women, and children still where they fell after being viciously struck down, and these disgusting excuses for human beings were not only expressing support for their slaughter but celebrating it.

Forward a few months, and — with unabashed hypocrisy — our government urged Israel to show restraint and followed with a condemnation of Israel’s eventual response, often after misleading and patently suspect reporting of events by “news” organizations who deserve none of what little respect they still hope to claim.   

As I write this, Israel has yet to respond to Iran’s recent direct attack (approximately 170 drones, 30 cruise missiles, and 120 ballistic missiles launched from Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen, although Iraq said no rockets were launched from their territories). Still, even now, our government is warning Israel to not overreact.

Strange that the US and others aren’t supporting a “proportional response” to the attack, especially after continually stressing “proportionality” for the past six months. It would seem justified for Israel to send 320 or so missiles the other way, no?

Or maybe not strange because the US is currently not responding to attacks in the Middle East, something that outright pisses me off when I read about US armed forces routinely being fired upon and prohibited from shooting back.

Worse, hearing our government calling for a unilateral ceasefire in Gaza while there are still American Citizens among the hostages Hamas holds makes me lose faith in the government’s ability to secure the safety of its citizens. It’s hard to believe they even care about it, and actually, I no longer do.

Repeated ceasefires as a result of international pressure combined with hostage-taking and one-sided concessions are precisely what I believe have emboldened all terrorist organizations, but especially Hamas and their overlords, the Iranians.

No other country is held to Israel’s standard, and no other country would accept the limitations to its sovereignty and right to defend itself and its citizens.  

In part, it’s because Hamas has done a better international PR job than Israel, mainly because the rest of the world won’t give Jewish people the same consideration those countries demand for themselves.

To this day, morally and intellectually addled pro-Hamas protesters around the world deny the atrocities Palestinians themselves documented and rejoiced about on October 7, 2023.

One final comment about this and related conflicts in that area of the world.

I mentioned above that this was a fight about ideology. That ideology has a name.

Islam was, is, and for the foreseeable future will remain a religion that incorporates incredible cruelty in their tenets, a religion that denies fundamental human rights, and a religion that is not only unwilling to police its most radical elements but actively supports them. All this even though, by far, most Muslims who are killed die at the hands of other Muslims.

Until there is a change from within, the idea that Western democracies can negotiate with extremist Muslims — which consistently have the support of the majority of Muslims — is as foolish as English and European politicians trying to appease an ever-increasing aggressive Nazi regime in the late 1930s . . . and we know how that turned out.

That American students march in support of people who routinely oppress women, kill atheists, kill gays, and cheerfully join in the call for the genocide of all Jews is a stain on the ideals of this country and on the educational institutions that have fostered such unconscionable attitudes.


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  1. The Western world has always promoted Israel’s right to live in peace. It’s been a given. From my neutral perspective, the two million civilian Palestinians residing in Gaza deserve to live in peace too – regardless of which of the bloody awful religions they choose to adhere to.

    I condemn Hamas and I condemn their 7th October terrorist atrocities. Ditto I also condemn Israel’s terrifying and disproportionate response.

    The Hamas government of Gaza has no excuse for what they have done. Ditto Netanyahu’s government.

    Netanyahu has authorised the killing of 30,000+ mostly civilians, women and children, the crippling destruction of hospitals, the targeting of UN aid personnel, the indiscriminate bombing of people in their homes and refugee camps, blockaded food supplies and discouraged aid. None of that is defence. It is an outright atrocity comparable to Putin’s bullying attacks on Ukraine.

    I won’t take sides.

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    1. Hmm . . . respectfully, it does seem like you’re taking sides by ignoring the well-documented history.

      I could comment on the casualty numbers, perhaps reminding that these are reported by Hamas, but it’s best if one does one’s own research on these matters, especially the claims of how many civilians have been killed, with a disproportionate number of them being women and children.

      Also for not taking sides, you readily accept “Netanyahu has authorised the killing of 30,000+ mostly civilians, women and children, the crippling destruction of hospitals, the targeting of UN aid personnel, the indiscriminate bombing of people in their homes and refugee camps, blockaded food supplies and discouraged aid. None of that is defence. It is an outright atrocity comparable to Putin’s bullying attacks on Ukraine.

      Roger, I respect your belief and accept that is your honest opinion, but I believe you are deeply misguided in blindly repeating what is an obviously one-sided and myopic view of the facts on the ground, and blindly ascribing the worse intent to one side while absolving the other.

      In that, you are not alone. It mystifies me when people make these claims because one thing that is absolutely uncontroversially true is that one side has the capability to to slaughter the other side and has not, while the other side claims that as their goal.

      Aside the fact that this is war, are you even familiar with how Israel is going about executing this war? Do you know of another army that announces their intentions to bomb a target so that civilians have a chance to leave? I’m not aware of any other country that does that.

      What I will comment on is that while I agree with you about the rights of the Palestinians to live in peace, Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza in 2005. Since then, Gaza has received billions in aid and have used it not to better the lives of Palestinians, but to build tunnels for its fighters and acquiring weapons. You should maybe read about top Hamas leaders, where they live, what they are worth, and what they say. Not from biased sources, but from their own mouths.

      And Israelis also have a right to live in peace. Of the two groups, only one calls for the annihilation of the other, only one has walked away from repeated Two-State solutions, and only one says they will not accept anything but the removal of Jews from the area. How can one negotiate with that?

      People forget many Jews currently in Israel are also refugees from surrounding countries that have expelled them from their home.

      Understand that I have no particular sympathy for Jews as a religious group or ethnic group, any more than I would for any other group. But this isn’t rocket science.

      For me, some facts are pretty clear, and while I don’t agree with everything Israel does, all I have to do is look of how they treat Arabs and Muslims living in Israel versus how Jews are treated in Arab countries . . . Oh, wait, there are no Jews living in Arab countries. I wonder why.

      But, after all that, let me ask a simple question . . . what would you suggest Israel should have done after October 7, 2023?

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  2. The middle east is a cess-pit of unresolvable intolerance, entrenched religious theocratic rule, ingrained racial bias and an infinite ‘tit for tat’ escalation mentality. Religion and racial prejudice is forever at its heart and nothing will ever change.

    The cruel humanitarian disaster of the last six months has resulted in me stepping back from the West’s previously unquestioning support for literally everything Israel does, bad behaviour a la Putin seemingly included.

    I guess we will agree to disagree.

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    1. Yes, the Middle East is that, and while we will “agree to disagree”, I’m just curious as to why only one country is held to blame for the current situation.

      Can we criticize Israeli policies and actions? Sure, and Israelis themselves — before October 7th — mounted massive demonstration against their government, and even now there are objections to some of its policies, even the war.

      Do we see any demonstrations by Palestinians against what Hamas has done and continues to do?

      Why no blame is placed on Hamas who is known for intentionally using its population as human shields (the safety of the tunnels are only for Hamas fighters, and not the civilian population, and curiously, they built no bomb shelter for the civilian population), and routinely diverts aid to intentionally keep the population wanting. A population that broadly approves of Hamas aim of ridding Israel of all Jews.

      Do you wonder why Arab states don’t wants Palestinians on their lands? Remember, Gaza borders with Egypt. They don’t want refugees (they are building a wall and a no-man’s land at the border to keep them out). Same to the North with Jordan.

      There are political reasons and ideological reasons for it, and it’s the ideological reasons that are most interesting.

      Egypt is battling Islamic insurgents just across the border from Gaza and Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood which sought to overthrow the Egyptian regime, and is worried Hamas would continue that effort. Jordan has similar issues.

      So, yes, the Middle East is a cess-pit . . . but I still haven’t heard what Israel should have done. It’s easy to criticize, to respond to images of rubble and dead, and accuse Israel of genocide.

      Gaza population statistics vary, but even by the most conservative estimates, Gaza has seen at least a four-fold population increase since the 1970s, and at least a two-fold increase since Israel’s unilateral withdrawal in 2005. That’s an odd definition of genocide.

      Mysery . . . I don’t wish it on anyone, but again and again, it’s not Israel that broke peace agreements, broke ceasefires, walked away from the negotiation table, and refused compromises.

      So, once more . . . how do you negotiate, how do you respond, what do you do with someone who openly and repeatedly swears they will keep trying to kill you until you are all dead?

      Because that’s what I find disheartening about the criticism of people sitting thousands of miles away, living a life free of the existential danger faced by Israelis . . . they have nothing to offer other than to say, “Hey, Israel, you should make peace with the people sworn to see you annihilated.”

      Perhaps that’s what England should have done with the Nazis, or the US with Imperial Japan. I wonder why they didn’t.

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    2. Perhaps I should also reiterate that I’m not saying Israel is above reproach.

      What I am saying is that the situation is a lot more complicated than is often presented by pundits (and tirelessly repeated by people who seem more than willing to blame Israel and Jews for everything).

      At the very least, I expect even-handedness in the treatment of the issues, and especially the recognition of the impossibility of coexistence with anyone dedicated to see you dead, and I call on anyone who thinks they have a solution to the conflict to come forth in all haste.

      Millions are waiting for your workable resolution to this forever war.

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