A comment on comments

In yesterday’s post, I linked THIS<<link post and my sister AnnMarie mentioned how nice it was to see multiple comments. I went back and counted . . . there were 16 unique individuals leaving comments.

It’s something I’ve also noted as I occasionally go back and read old posts. Namely, there used to be more people leaving comments as late as four years ago than this year. To be clear, the slowdown started sometime in the last three years and it has now reached a point where I can expect comments from a maximum of two, maybe three people leaving a comment, and it’s the same two or three people.

Most of the readers who at one time I considered “regulars” are no more. I don’t mean they’ve died (although — sadly — a few have, and they are deeply missed). I mean they no longer seem active in the blogging community. Some have blogs that have gone dormant without explanation, and some indicated their focus and interests have shifted.

Some are still around, but they don’t interact as much. They also don’t post as much, so there’s less chance to initiate any type of interaction.

As I mentioned to AnnMarie, it may be that I’ve finally perfected the art of alienating people (my secondary motto, after all, is “winning enemies and alienating friends since 1953“).

Coincidentally, just today, someone asked me if I felt OK. I answer “yes, why?” and they said that I’m not the same as I used to be. I kind of blew it off, joking that I’m older and that no one is how they used to be, but then I thought about it.

I mean, I don’t feel different, even as the world has drastically changed in the last three years. I still think I’m basically irreverent in an annoying but occasionally endearing way. But, if the truth were to be told, when I read older posts, the persona I’m reading does seem a bit different. The writing is looser, there are more jokes, there’s a level — and type — of cleverness I don’t see in my current posts.

Mind you, it’s not that I don’t think I can write like that, but rather that I don’t do it as often. What does “like that” mean? Bolder, more dynamic . . . panoramic, even. Current posts — including this one — seem dryer, duller.

I don’t feel any different . . . but I can plainly see I rarely have visitors interact, whereas that used to be a semi-regular occurrence. Mind you, I’m not complaining (so, no need to feel bad for me or tell me to ‘keep my chin up!’ . . . besides, that would hurt my neck) because I also think readers have changed . . . they face the same obstreperous world that I do, and it can weigh on a person.

Or, it could be that we’ve all changed. There’s more anger in the world, yes, but also a feeling of hopelessness, a dread of having lost control of one’s life (even if all along it was just an illusion of control). Big things are happening; things that are difficult to comprehend on their own, but that are even more difficult to understand in the context of their effect on the world.

Because, that’s the thing . . . even little news items are — these days — presented as if disproportionally important to the fate of humanity itself. With such distorting force pressing on our subconscious, regular stuff (like maintaining a blog or even just commenting on a blog) seems like a waste of time, meaningless, and not worthy of our attention.

Or, when it comes to my blog and commenting on it, it’s not all that interesting and hence people have nothing to say. And, that’s fine. I’d rather have no comment than a forced comment (I can usually perceive perfunctory versus genuine comments/interest.

Which, maybe, begs another question … was I ever that interesting? A lot of the then-regular readers who interacted were bloggers who started their blogs around the same time I did, and we connected on mutual interests (writing and photography). It could be they found more interesting blogs, or I so scarred them that they just gave up and are now happy just sitting in their rocking chair eating tapioca pudding. Yay me! I done changed people’s lives!

Or, maybe, I stopped offering what interested them (commentaries and thoughts about photography and writing). I wonder because it’s been a while since I’ve written anything about the writing craft itself. Certainly, not as many how-to posts about either photography or writing.

One other possibility has occurred to me . . . there is a redundancy in my posts . . . meaning, the same-birds-different-months, or the same-flowers-different-month year after year. Perhaps I now lack the originality of a few years ago (hardly anything unique here in the grand land of Illinois).

Maybe WordPress is onto something as it strives to offer options most of us will never use . . . they figured out you either keep making life more interesting, or people will lose interest.

Maybe an ornate post is just what I need to revamp interest in my writing, be it fiction or not.

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  1. I zoomed in on your last photo and then scrolled down so that I could not see the sky and the blue trees and the composition was much better. That first photo reminded me of all those posts when you lived in Hawaii. Personally, I am not much for bugs and birds but those Hawaii pics, well, they were taken in Hawaii! Oh, I just read about your thoughts on blogging from way back in 2013 and hope you are over your sore throat!

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    1. There is a version in a post where I cropped out the sky (but I had to finagle a bit to do so). I could have just filled the sky in photoshop . . .

      OR . . . I could have enhanced it way out of proportion in Luminar 4 . . .

      But these were just quick and not all that exciting photos I pulled at random and processed in Luminar AI.

      I fully understand about Hawaii as opposed to Illinois. Even Colorado as opposed to Illinois had a lot more to offer. Then again, I’ve not explored Illinois as much as I did the other places.

      And I get (and mentioned) the redundancy of my posts . . . the same birds, the same flowers, the same bugs. However, there was a lot of redundancy in Hawaii as well (perhaps better flowers?).

      . . . now that you mentioned it, I do have a slight tickle in my throat . . . cough, cough.

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  2. I found this article both helpful and beautifully presented. I was directed to it in trying to learn to manage my own blog activity and find so many aspects worthy of emulation here. We are all works-in-progress!

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  3. That’s an astute observation. Sadly, I believe that is the nature of the blogging beast. And since I’ve only started reading you in the last year or so (and it was thanks to the “Block Editor-Ptui!”™), I can’t comment on your change in style specifically.

    And even if you are a well-established blogger, the competition these days is fierce. I think most people read but don’t leave comments unless they A. care about you or your post or B. are reacting to something you’ve said.

    And then there’s twitter, fb, instagram, tumbler and such. There are so many former bloggers I followed who now prefer social media instead.

    So maybe you’re on to something and long-form writing (and thus blogging) is a dying art.

    OK-that’s all I got. Gotta go catch up on the SDS and vote. 😊

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    1. Hmm . . . I mentioned my absence from Twitter and Facebook as a possible reason, but had not considered the fact many people have transitioned to those platforms. I should have remembered because a couple of regulars would often respond to my posts on Facebook. It stands to reason they didn’t bother transitioning back to the source when I left the platform.

      And, you point to another (ongoing) issue . . . the immediacy of information. Given the choice to see a photo and a quick blurb on Facebook/Twitter versus opening a blog post and actually having to read something, many people these days opt for the former. And yes, Instagram, SnapChat, and FSM-knows what else is competing for the attention of a limited resource (literate readers — although I cheat a bit by including photos for them who can’t read).

      And yes, competition from other blogs . . . I’ve mentioned before the number of blogs posts one competes with; the current numbers are even more staggering (staggeringier?) …

      … 2.75 million blog posts each day with an average word count of 1,150 (https://hostingtribunal.com/blog/blog-posts-per-day/) and that’s just WordPress.

      It’s a wonder I have any readers at all since with even just a little effort, one can find much more interesting stuff than mine (and no, I won’t point to it . . . one has to do one’s own research).

      . . . lucky thing I’m not trying to make a living at this . . .

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      1. I dunno, those numbers seems kind of low to me.

        And you brought up another point, monetization. That’s a really hot topic and seems to be the big attraction for new bloggers here. The fact is that it takes tens of thousands of views a month to make any significant income, or at least enough to cover the cost of an annual Premium plan, which is the lowest plan needed to run WPcom’s ad program. (Only Business plan and up can run their own ad programs.) Just as an experiment, my more popular craft site has been running their ad program for about 6 months and I haven’t even covered the cost of a cuppa joe, but I’m not trying very hard. And not trying to sell anything here, just noting the issue.

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      2. Yeah, it seems WP is pushing the monetization angle but they don’t say just how many subscribers and views you need to make money.

        Whenever I’ve looked at it, it didn’t seem worth the effort and annoyance of ads, plus, it puts extra pressure to provide worthwhile content, whereas here, I don’t have to worry about quality since it’s all free for anyone to peruse.

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  4. Personally speaking, I know I have to put more effort into looking for things that make me happy instead of allowing myself to get sucked into looking at things that make me feel sad, frustrated and angry. Less than 30 years ago, there were a few times a day to watch the news . . . now it’s 24/7 to the nth degree! Add social media to the mix and you’ve got a recipe for massive distraction. And more is not better, in this case.

    HOWEVER, . . . let me also remind you, Emilio, that you’ve gone through changes in these past few years . . . namely, leaving Hawaii and relocating to Illinois. These are MAJOR and have affected your blogging, and very likely, your readership, too. Your attention, naturally, had to be on these events and the subsequent many, many details involved.

    So, my Pollyanna-ish self has this to say, “You’re almost done with the house remodeling project. As far as I know, you have no other major projects planned. Therefore, you will have plenty of attention to give to your photography and writing . . . who, like puppies, are sitting not-so-patiently looking at you and wagging their tails in anticipation of a glance from you!”

    No, you are not different than you used to be. Your talents are still within you. My belief is that you were naturally and simply distracted and the posts reflected that.

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    1. So, et tu, AnnMarie . . . basically, you’re saying I’m not offering up stuff like I used to because of my constant state of transition. Fair enough . . . although another reason is WordPress itself.

      It’s not as easy authoring the kind of posts I used to do because of the changes in their interface. Those already were labor-intensive, and making the process more difficult didn’t help my motivation one bit (none at all, really).

      I find myself doing shorter posts (another reason I’m so far behind on stuff).

      AND . . . yet another reason, the writing challenges. The previous challenge especially took up a lot of time and effort. The current challenge less so, but still requiring reminders in addition to the actual posting.

      I know I sound like I’m making excuses, and perhaps I am . . . but adding them all up does count for something as far as negative incentives.

      And, finally, what I mentioned a few times already . . . I’m not doing anything new. Birds, bugs, flowers; rinse, repeat. There’s little excitement unless I find a new bird or a new bug, or new landscape, or new something. That’s one of the reasons I play with Impression and the other Topaz plugins . . . revitalizing old photos and making them look different (but, even that gets old after a bit).

      As far as being distracted . . . it only happens because I let it, which means I’m probably not as focused on the blog as I used to be.

      . . . perhaps I should start up my opinion pieces again . . . that’ll get me going! … and perhaps alienate more readers. Or, perhaps do what I did some years ago. Tale a month off from blogging (I’m already off Twitter and Facebook), YouTube, and all the other Internet-based distractions. Maybe two months.

      Maybe after the current challenge ends.

      Anyway, thanks for the comment.

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  5. That fourth photo looks exactly like ME!!! Although I do have more whiskers on my chin. I like to comment more but it seems I always run out of minutes each day. I have been working (off and on) trying to get back to the blogs. I’ve made some changes (you may notice new themes and the absence of the LIKE button) and collected some photos to resume posting. I have ordered some “AMBITION” from Amazon but it hasn’t arrived yet. I’ll be back!

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    1. That’s my next project . . . adding beards on all birds and animals I photograph . . .

      Hmm . . . it sounds like you’re posting again, but I’ve not received any notices nor do I see anything new on your site.

      Am I missing something or are you saying you’re preparing to do all that?

      As for Ambition, strange that you haven’t received it. It’s not something that’s in popular demand these days. There should be a surplus of it floating around out there.

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  6. I think everyone has changed at least a little in the past 4 years and their routines have changed. I know I have, mine have. So what people do online is different…and many have so many social media sites, etc., that they frequent they are dividing their time.
    My readership has lessened a lot over the years…some have let me know they quit blogging, others sadly have died or become too ill to blog anymore, etc. I miss them greatly, but I understand.
    THE ONLY online social media type thing I do is blog on WP and I barely have time for that these days. I’m baffled by how people have time for Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Twitter, blogging, etc., and on and on.
    People blog for different reasons. My thought has always been if a person enjoys blogging, likes sharing photos, hobbies, writings…and reading other people’s blogs…then keep doing it…no matter the numbers.
    You’ve always had a great blog! I enjoy it immensely! You have a lot of good to offer in everything you blog here, so I hope you will keep doing so.
    (((HUGS))) 🙂

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    1. You’re right about wondering about how people find the time. I read of people playing games (often, multiple hours a day) in addition to the social media sites. Some of those games look interesting and something I might enjoy, but I can’t imagine adding a new interest to my schedule right now.

      Anyway, thank you for your continued support.

      No worries, I have no plans to quit, but I might take a bit of time off like I did before.

      … ah, I keep on thinking that, but it probably won’t happen because that will put me even more behind with processing photos of interesting places and things.

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  7. Well, Disperser, you’re not the only one who is getting long in the tooth. I will be 82 by the end of the year and I have noticed that everything has been slowing down, especially these last two years. I started my blog in 2010 and for nine years most of my posts were photo stories about our travels. Then came Covid and we don’t travel anymore and I hardly ever pick up my camera, either. And so my posts have been few and far between. I still follow a few dozen bloggers, though, some of whom we share. I believe many of us found each other when we were participating in Leanne Cole’s Monochrome Madness challenges several years ago. Anyway, I still read every word of your posts (even found three typos / misspellings in this one of yours) and have enjoyed your posts on your cruise to Alaska and other travels. I also appreciate all of those suggestions regarding Lightroom plug-ins and the infamous WordPress Block Editor. And I have enjoyed most of the stories in the previous writing challenge. Not so much the Seven Deadly Sins, though, but maybe that’s just me.

    There is one activity that has taken up most of my time and attention these last nine months: I am writing my memoirs! My daughters gave me a subscription to StoryWorth last Christmas. Here’s the deal: Once a week they send me a question about my life and I reply and then at the end of one year I have a 52-chapter book ready to be published.

    Have you ever considered doing such a thing? I remember on one of my last posts a year or so ago I wrote about Hemingway’s A Farewell to Arms and mentioned the battles that took place during World War I along the Italy-Austria border and you commented that you were born in that area of northeast Italy. I bet there are a lot of people out there who would be interested in reading about you and your family migrating from this part of Europe and settling in the US Midwest. Take a look at their website at StoryWorth.com.

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    1. You hit the nail in the head . . . most of the followers follow each other because of a third party connection in the past, and they generally form a small cadre of bloggers that keep on following each other. Sure, some new ones come and go, but that’s rare.

      The problem is that as the ‘regulars’ or ‘old-timers’ leave, there’s no new blood taking their place. For instance, Leanne moved her act to FaceBook, a platform that — even while I was on it — I don’t find conducive to forming connections (funny that because that’s exactly what it’s supposed to do).

      Once she moved there, I stopped following and stopped contributing. Same for some of the writing friends I had; they moved on from the blogging scene into social media where they could push their works to more people and ‘make connections’ with editors and agents. That is totally NOT me.

      However, I still take tons of photos. 8,500 on the D7500, Another 1K on the P900, and 1,700 on the phone so far this year, and I have another three months to go.

      The slowing down thing is iffy . . . if anything, I have too many interests. And doing too many projects.

      And, while I may not have as much participation, I still put in the effort on the blog (209 posts so far this year, 7,000 visits, 18,500 views . . . although probably a third of those are due to conversations like this one, and many of the views are gallery views).

      The spelling thing is also due to the block editor. For some reason, the spell-checker doesn’t work well with blocks. That means that when it’s late and writing while tired it doesn’t catch my mistakes. Most people might not realize I’m not a touch typist; 2-3 fingers hunt-n-peck and I have to look at the keyboard while I type, so I don’t catch the mistakes on the fly. That, and when I’m tired I’m more prone to edit something I’ve written and forget to clean up the sentence (verb tense, extra articles, etc.).

      As for the last thing . . . yes, and that’s something my sister could do with my mother who actually remembers all that. I hardly remember stuff that happened to me in my 30s and 40s . . . and 50s and this decade.

      The thing with me is that I would be lousy at writing memoirs because — as the quote goes …

      Actually, it’s not that it’s not important . . . it’s that I tend to look forward and since I don’t dwell on the past, I don’t reinforce memories of it. Many, many memories are completely lost, primarily because I don’t relive them.

      Of course, if I could fictionalize my life, I’m sure I could make it very interesting . . . like the time I helped Lady Di sneak out of Buckingham Palace during the Queen Mother’s birthday celebration so she could go party with her lover. Ah, fun times.

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      1. Hm, I followed Leanne when she still had her site here on WordPress.com and she was a willing victim for me when the Reblog was first introduced, tested and deemed a fiasco. I didn’t realize she’d moved to FB (but since I’m not on FB, why would I have known anyway). She does have a .com.au site currently, but it doesn’t look like photo challenges are a part of her current set up. I could be wrong (it happens!). 😉

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        1. Last I had seen (which was a few years ago) the challenges were on FaceBook, although I don’t know if they caught on as well.

          She seemed a bit bitter before she changed her format and concentrated more on offering lessons. She felt the brands were not recognizing the contribution she offered and were dismissive of her efforts. I could be remembering wrong, but that was part of the reason she was planning to switch to more one-on-one classes and workshops. I’ve not checked out what she’s up to now.

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    2. “Once a week they send me a question about my life and I reply and then at the end of one year I have a 52-chapter book ready to be published.” That is a wonderful thing your daughters did and you for doing it for your kids. If you don’t mind me suggesting something; read those chapters out loud and record them. Hearing your voice might brings up memories they have forgotten. One of my long-retired co-workers, now in his late 80’s, recorded a weekly interview with and for his daughter. It’s really a precious gift.

      If this is completely out of line, E., please delete it. TIA

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      1. Hmm … I’m almost offended you’d think I’d consider this out of line (insert puzzled and sad smilie here).

        This is exactly the kind of discussion/comments I like. The fact that it meanders away from the initial topic is not a problem; real conversations often do. The only requirement is that they be useful and add to the conversation.

        Besides, I can count on one hand the number of comments I’ve deleted, and I’d have a few fingers left over. I occasionally give them the gibberish treatment, but even then, I summarize what the person said.

        For example:

        Opinion: Holocaust Deniers, Petitions, and Censorship

        I have deleted blatant advertisements that snuck through Akismet, but the filter does a good job of spamming the vast majority of them.

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        1. Alrighty then. I sometimes feel like I might be overstepping the bounds of good netizenship, so will keep this in mind the next time I feel the need to share something here.

          Oh. My. I just read that short exchange. It suddenly got really hot here (or was that just a hotflash?). Will wait until tomorrow to actually read the post itself.

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  8. The underlying reasons you and others have mentioned make sense, but I think the gist of it is natural attrition. People change, they move on, etc. And of course many moved to social media because it’s more convenient (and more in your face and therefore harder to get away from).

    In someways blogging is no different than a business – one has to constantly bring in new blood to keep things flowing. Google’s also become so bloated and nearly worthless at guiding folks to great blogs like yours so that doesn’t help either.

    Just giving you my comment on your comment on comments ; )

    Carry on!
    Ray

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    1. Thank you, Ray, for the comment’s comment . . . comment.

      Attrition certainly is a factor, and Google’s bloat is another, but that still doesn’t fully explain how — with three times as many followers than I had — I get a third fewer comments than I used to get.

      BUT… I have yet another explanation. Namely, I lack focus (and I’m wordy, and I post too many photos, etc. etc.)

      The advice offered to new bloggers for building a readership and a successful blog is to keep their posts focused and short. Most blogs do this by covering one area of interest.

      Me? I meander and I’m inconsistent. Some months I have a lot of travel stuff, other months it’s stuff about writing, some months (maybe next month for NaNoWriMo) it’s all about fiction, and some months —although not lately — it’s all about opinions about current events.

      The photos are also not focused . . . er . . . I mean, they are (usually) in focus, but the subjects change, plus, they are not crafted to the level of people who present one or two photos at a time. And photos are there to pad the words, and vice versa.

      What I’m saying is that I don’t have a gimmick … rather, I’m saying that not having a gimmick IS my gimmick.

      Tonight I might write about the faulty assumption that as thinking animals we must find a purpose … along with a couple of photos of a bee or some rocks. Tomorrow, I might write about one of the cruises I’ve been on, or a national park I’ve visited. The next day, my thinking about the state of publishing today . . .

      The thing is, that can work if you have a following of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands (a la John Scalzi). Then, you can write pretty much about anything and some number of followers will find it interesting and plop down a few hundred (or more) comments.

      But, if (like me) you have 1,800 followers, of which 1,787 never bother to visit the blog, then — at most — you’re likely to engage one or two for each different offering. I know if I were to post photos of cats, my viewership would at least triple . . . and if it’s a cat with a personality, I’d get tens of comments. Alas, I’m petless.

      . . . still, life goes on, and I blog for the few, the brave . . . the ones with eclectic and ill-defined tastes.

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