Project 313 – Post No. 129

There are few things that trigger my indignation more than hearing someone brag about something when they’re factually wrong about that something. One of the reasons I seldom listen to cable news or news in general. I get annoyed when undisputable facts contradict the words the person is saying and the person is saying those words with unwarranted but self-satisfied bravado. 

Yes, yes, Trump is one such person and he would irritate the crap out of me if it weren’t for the fact I’ve written him off as a liar and a con man. And yes, he’s doing irreparable damage to various government institutions . . . but it’s not like those government institutions were pillars of integrity, honesty, and conscientiousness. Those same government institutions have weathered bad actors before and we can hope they will weather them again. Although, to be sure, people these days — despite knowing more — seem . . . how shall I say it . . . dumber; yes; dumber than previous generations. 

Anyway, I’m referring to regular interactions with people both in the real world and on this here InterWeb. Namely, someone will state something that’s obviously wrong and because I’m interacting with them, I point it out. 

Here’s the kicker; if it’s someone I don’t care about, I don’t bother. But if it’s a friend, I don’t want them facing the embarrassment of continually repeating something that’s obviously wrong. 

To be fair, I could be the one who’s wrong or misinterpreting the facts and if that’s the case, all that it takes to sway me is pointing at the facts and saying something like “Look; look at the facts this way and not that way.”

I mean, it happens; you look at something you think you’re seeing one thing when in fact, it’s a different thing. That’s excusable and I’ve been guilty of it.

What I’m not typically guilty of, is maintaining and defending my confusion and misconception after it’s been pointed out to me.

At the very least — assuming I don’t fully agree — I’ll admit the fact do support conclusions and observations that might differ from my own. Then, it comes down to a continued conversation as to which interpretation is likely to more accurately track with the real world. I mean, I may think I’ve seen Bigfoot but if someone points out there is no physical evidence for its existence and that it’s Halloween and that people do occasionally wear gorilla suits at Halloween, I’d have to be very stubborn to deny the alternative explanation.  

As you might guess, it happens to me. That is, encountering stubbornness in others, not the Bigfoot bit.  

The reason it annoys me is two-fold . . . one is the inherent dishonesty of the person who closes their minds to alternative viewpoints when those viewpoints make more sense and are better supported by evidence than the viewpoint they insist on. Although I see it as a character fault, I could almost accept it . . . except for the other thing. 

Namely, they have no respect or consideration for me or my opinion. Truly, I don’t need their approval, respect, or consideration, but then why am I still dealing with them if they don’t honestly consider the possibility I might have a valid point and dismiss my arguments out of hand without even acknowledging the possibility they are valid?

Even allowing for the fact my engleesh not be good, they don’t even TRY to see if I had a valid point to make. And if friends don’t respect each other, what hope is there for the population at large?

. . . it’s no exaggeration to say it’s one of the reasons I have no hope for the longevity of humankind . . .  

And now, the photo:

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I had a tough time matching a frame with that treatment . . . and then I came across this one and it felt right . . . I’m sure many will not agree. But, since it’s a matter of subjective interpretation, that’s fine.

By the way, if you go to a mall near where I live I’m the owner of the car that’s parked multiple yards away from all the other cars and usually farthest from our destination. For one, the longer walk to our destination gives us just a bit more exercise. But the main reason is . . . 

There are a lot of Big Earls out there. People with no regard for their own property and even less for the property of others. 

I’ll opt the longer walk even if the weather is not conducive to a comfortable stroll. 

For instance, during the summer in the tropics . . . by the way, that worm monument won’t last much longer because . . . No Respite On Second Night For Plastic Multicolor Worm Monument Beginning To Melt During Latest Heatwave.

No Respite On Second Night For Plastic Multicolor Worm Monument Beginning To Melt During Latest Heatwave

And . . . that’s it

Some of these posts will likely be longer as the mood hits me, but most will be thus; short, uninteresting, bland, and relentless.

You can read about Project 313 HERE.

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11 Responses to Project 313 – Post No. 129

  1. sandra getgood says:

    Very interesting post about discussions today. It is sometimes very difficult to have a discussion, because the person you are trying to talk with is so often not listening at all, and is just waiting for the opportunity to jump in again, to continue his or her speech, without even hearing possible alternatives.
    That doesn’t happen here. You have very definite opinions, but you do listen to those of us who are trying to approach the subject from a somewhat different angle….and that makes conversation possible. And interesting.

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    • disperser says:

      Thank you, Sandra.

      The “not listening” is exactly it. I’ve said it before but it’s worth repeating:

      1) you should begin with the possibility you’re missing something or are wrong. For many people, this is the most difficult. FSM knows, it is for me; I don’t like being wrong. Still one must make the effort.

      2) you should know the opposing argument well enough that you could make it yourself (even if you don’t agree with it). Most people dismiss out of hand and make no effort to understand.

      3) unless you have evidence to the contrary, assume the other person is honest in their belief. If that’s the case, apply #1 and #2. It doesn’t mean they are right, but give them the respect of considering their position.

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  2. Great post, Emilio!

    Know what? I’ve learned that some people just have stuff they want to say and they don’t even care to listen to anyone else. They want to get their opinion out there, but they really don’t care what anyone else feels or thinks. So I’ve quit participating in conversations with those people. And some people ask my opinion and then say “Oh, that’s good advice” and then they do something else. I realized years ago that they already decided what they were going to do and they just wanted me to agree with it. I want to be honest in giving my opinion and I like to talk through options with people. But some people don’t want any of that. So I have fewer deep conversations these days.

    PHOTO: Beautiful! Feather-y!
    CARTOON: Yes, too many Big Earls in the world today.
    DOODLE: Cool effect! Looks like melted crayons.

    HUGS!!! :-)

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  3. disperser says:

    Thanks, Carolyn.

    If I ever get like that, send up a flare or something.

    . . . although, part of the reason I write these things is as a reminder to me so hopefully I’ll catch myself.

    Yes . . . many, many Earls. I fear for my car whenever I’m in public.

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  4. colonialist says:

    There are even people who like arguing so much that if you agree with them they’ll promptly adopt your previous position. An Irish characteristic.

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    • disperser says:

      Well, realistically, the purpose of a discussion (argument) is to learn something, to have one’s views challenged to see if they can stand the test of fire.

      . . . if the other guy won’t do it, I take it upon myself to pick up the slack . . . perhaps I’m Irish . . . or, I can argue both sides of any argument equally well.

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  5. macquie says:

    interesting post. I enjoyed and support your argument point, but I also enjoyed to read down why you parked far away from the destination, the world we live is the same no matter where it is in the globe..

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  6. We have the same problem here with the talking heads. I’m fed up screaming at the idiot box and I’m the idiot for watching/listening to these fools!

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