Christian Haters

That title does not refer to people who hate christians. It refers to christians who hate. 

Most christians are nice people, but they are oblivious as to the nature of many (too many) of their fellow christians. To be fair, so are muslims, hindus, and every other religious person I’ve encountered. Most people, you see, have the learned or innate ability to turn a blind eye to the collateral problems associated with their own beliefs. They can’t believe that given little or no provocation, the gentlest of grandmothers can turn into a raging lunatic calling down eternal damnation on her own son, grandchild, or neighbor.

The excuse I hear most often is “well, they are not true (insert religious belief here), are they?” 

You currently hear the same excuse from Muslims with regards to ISIS (at least from those Muslims who are not running out to join them).

Here’s what ‘good’ christians don’t get . . . the very same writings and teaching they interpret as promoting good will, love, and compassion, those same writings and teachings are used by other christians to promote hate and intolerance. 

If you are a believer who assumes these christians haters just don’t get it, that they are not understanding the doctrine, you would be wrong. Amazingly, ignorantly, disturbingly, and naively wrong.

I can sit here and point you to discussion boards, and I can link discussions I have saved as PDFs, discussion in which I was a participant. I can point you to a weekly public access radio show out of Austin, TX, a call-in show like no other I know of. Run by the Atheist Community of Austin, the show fields questions from callers who are believers, and want to defend their faith. 

I say the hosts are atheists, but many were fundamental christians themselves, and not just when they were young. Some were true believers for at least part of their adult lives. (Read info on the show and hosts HERE and HERE.)

After over 40 years of dealing with christians and believers in other faiths, I contend that, at their very core, ALL christians are haters. Some are what I call active haters, voicing their hate in very public and disgusting ways. The others are passive haters, and guilty by association. 

In the eyes of the law, if a crime is committed by a person, that person is culpable, but culpability is also carried and shared by any associates who knowingly aided and supported what that person did, even if their sin was inaction. In fact, you can be completely ignorant of what your buddy was going to do, but if you were in the car with him when he shot another motorist or pedestrian, you are an accomplice.

You might be charged with a lesser crime, but the moral of the story is this . . . if you identify yourself as a member of a group of idiots, the assumption, often valid, is that you too are an idiot.

Some believers (Fox News) recognize this principle, and try to paint all atheists, for instance, with the stench of any atheist who does something wrong. Aside the hypocrisy of not accepting the same logic for the numerous slimeballs in their own religious ranks, there is no Atheist A-Holy Book anyone can point to. Atheists have one thing in common, and it’s not a doctrine, no matter how much individuals with poor reasoning skills wish it were so; atheists hold no belief in god. Beyond that, whatever other human virtue or failing atheists hold, it has no bearing on the virtue of failing of any other atheist. 

If an atheist breaks a law, they cannot, as many religious folks do, take shelter behind a given book, doctrine, or holy scripture. They can’t even say ‘the devil made me do it’ because the devil is uniquely an invention, and oft used excuse, belonging solely to believers. 

Why do I bring this up now, in this post? Because there is a book coming out next month documenting that very hate I speak of, and I’ve pre-ordered it.

You can too; the book will be out on December 2, 2014

You can read a short article about the book HERE.

I live within spitting distance of the Air Force Academy. A great place to visit, a long tradition of turning out amazing people . . . and also embroiled in a number of scandals relating to religious persecution. Whenever yet another scandal makes the local paper, there is always a backlash from local christians, incensed that somehow their right to demand others follow their faith is being criticized.  Christians who see nothing wrong with the expectation that if you are in the military, or even if you are just a US citizen, your allegiance should be to “God and Country”.

Notice the order of that . . . what if someone happens to put Country first, as in the laws that govern this country? Well, then, by golly, they should be persecuted. So says one, so says all.

Believe me, I don’t give a rat’s ass if you have a relationship with some imaginary pal, but do yourself a favor . . . learn the reason why the Constitution makes no mention of god, and learn why the founding fathers went to great pains to establish the concept of Separation of Church and State. 

You can start with ordering that book, learning exactly what you are standing up to defend, and the kind of people who populate your ranks.

If you can’t spare the $11 to educate yourself about the slime that trails behind your beliefs, at least check out some of these links, and then consider joining fellow humans, believers and secularists both, who support the idea of Separation of Church and State. You can either do it privately, in your everyday life, how you vote, what you support, or you can do it publicly

Mr. Believer; cut that tie to the slime that taints  you. Stand up for not only freedom of religion, but also for freedom from religion, especially the kind shoved down people’s throats by any person of authority over another, or by the government itself.

Whichever way you choose to support the Constitution, O Believer, if you have any remaining capacity for reason, for critical thinking, recognize that you can still keep your faith, your belief . . . you just have to let go of the hate it comes packaged with.

Supplemental Reading Material:

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/religion-and-the-military-052214

http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/religious-freedom-and-the-military-a-short-history/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trijicon_biblical_verses_controversy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_symbolism_in_the_United_States_military

There is much, much more people of faith can find with minimal research.

Whether you do any research or not, keep in mind the moral duty of every human includes the duty to protect the minority, the weak, those who are subject to persecution. It does NOT include the duty to force one’s views onto another . . . no matter what your particular good book says.

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8 Responses to Christian Haters

  1. Trouble with America is that the English settlers were religious no hopers who escaped to religious freedom in the colonies and brought their thoughtless idea’s and beliefs with them, idea’s which seem to have stayed, trouble is it’s now too late as it became big business.
    Australia on the otherhand was settled by English/British convicts who really didn’t give a damn about some god who’d stuck them in some forsaken place on the otherside of he globe, as a consequence when we have the census the section for “Religion” usually has a preponderence of no religion or atheist in this section. Does this mean we are smarter than our older Yankee cousins? :P

    With your permission I’m going to Press this blog>

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    • disperser says:

      I don’t know about smarter; I also think there’s a danger in generalizing what is essentially a human frailty (borne out of, in my opinion, the combination of awareness and fear of one’s own mortality).

      22% of Australians claim no religious affiliation, and you can push that to 31% if you include the ones who declined to answer. 61% fall under christian denominations, and an additional 6% or so to other religious beliefs. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Australia)

      The US “non-religious” percentage falls somewhere around 20%, although that number is sometimes estimated higher.

      The point is that percentage-wise, the numbers are not that disparate.

      What is different is the influence of the religious in the politics, both at the local and national level. Although, I was under the impression fundamentalists were gaining ground in Australia (as they are in many parts of the world) even as secularists are gaining in numbers.

      I think we’re seeing the “circling of the wagons” by people extremely insecure and/or fanatic about their made-up beliefs.

      Sure, press away; I don’t anticipate a flood of readers.

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      • A lot of Australians put down a religion because they think they have to, Some new US type of churches are springing up but truth be told the number of non believers agnostics and atheists ( that should cover us) is a great deal more than the 22% honest souls like me :)

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        • disperser says:

          That’s the assumption here (for instance, non-theists alone would not be able to support the porn industry unless all atheists were millionaires), but the problem, here and there, is that once someone ‘thinks’ they have to identify a certain way, it leaks into everything they do, including voting, supporting this or that cause, etc. etc.

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  2. oneowner says:

    Oh boy!!! “To the Far Right Christian Hater” book will be out in time for Christmas gift giving!!!

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  3. Religion hasn’t been very helpful in this world. I think those worshipers that are so keen to sell others the same bill of goods they were sold before and this reminds me of a pyramid scheme. I want to be encouraged to think for myself. I have found Atheists to be intelligent, down to earth, practical and some of the most compassionate people I’ve met. Spirituality is something else entirely. Great post Emile.

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    • disperser says:

      It’s Emilio, but thanks for trying to make me French (I like their bread and their toast).

      As I mention before, I don’t like generalizing based on labels. There are compassionate people, and they span the gamut from being religious, to being atheists, and some even like broccoli.

      The point is that anyone can find an example from any one member of a group, and have that example be a positive or negative example purported to represent the group as a whole..

      But that is not a function of the group; it is always a function of the individual. Taking it farther than that, applying the behavior of a few as evidence of the characteristics of the many is just plain wrong, regardless if it is a positive or negative characterization.

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