If I’m following you, read this . . .

I follow a lot of blogs. Most are not that active. Some are.

Blogs I follow are split into two kinds . . . those with their own domain name, and those that have names which include  the wordpress name (for example, like mine: disperser.wordpress.com).

This post is for blogs with their own domain name . . . but first, let me tell you about third party cookies. No, let’s let someone else tell you about them.

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/disable-third-party-cookies-in-ie-firefox-and-google-chrome/

So, here’s the deal; I looked at the cookies stored on my PC. About every other cookie is an advertising cookie. Most know where I am (or at least they think they do; I use GoTrusted, so my IP is listed as being somewhere on the East Coast), but they also know what I am looking at, and target ads specifically to my browsing.

I. Don’t. Like. That.

I don’t object to people making money from ads. I object to them assuming what I want to see (Google does the same thing with the searches, and it’s becoming more and more annoying). I object to them gathering data on me. I don’t like Google doing it, I don’t like FaceBook doing it . . . I basically don’t like any site doing it. 

So, what does that have to do with blogs with their own domain names?

When I block Third Party Cookies, I no longer can comment or leave “likes” on those blogs. Not all of those blogs, but some. You can read the whole support thread HERE, but basically that’s what WordPress says; I need to enable third party cookies for my comments and ‘likes’ to work.

Now, there are some caveats to that . . . it’s not just me blocking third party cookies. It’s also the site (the blogger) requiring commenters to log in (meaning, they have to have facebook, twitter, or wordpress accounts).

This is what my comments settings look like.

Settings

There are more settings, but these are the ones that seem to matter. Specifically, the “Users must be registered and logged in to comment“. 

If you have that box clicked, commenters are required to be logged in.

Before I continue, let me make a comment about that . . . not everyone is on Facebook, Twitter, or WordPress. In fact, a number of my readers are not. Having that box checked essentially shuts them out from being able to comment unless they join one of those sites . . . which they would have already done had they wanted to do so.

Anyway, if you have that box checked, and even if I am logged into my WordPress account (or one of the other two), and the site can’t set a third party cookie, I will not be able to comment.

Supposedly I can write exception for individual sites, allowing them to post third party cookies.

. . . supposedly . . . I’ve done so for blogs I read, and it makes no difference. 

I can post comments on some sites, but not hit ‘like’. On other sites I can hit ‘like’ but not post comments.  And on some sites I can do neither, and on some sites I can do both.

The behavior I have seen points me to a possible glitch. . . . or . . . there are additional advertising cookies wanting to be set; cookies that have nothing to do with either WordPress or the site I am visiting. 

Now, all this would go away if I enable third party cookies . . . but I am not going to.

So, here’s the way of things. If I am following your blog, I am reading it. If you no longer see my ‘likes’ or any comments, check your settings.

HOWEVER . . . as I said above, the system is not consistent. I had one blog that stopped accepting comments as I was having a conversation with the blogger on the comment; I posted about four, and then I could post no more. 

Again, I am not enabling third party cookies.

If that keeps me from commenting on your blog, I will be sad . . . but I will not enable third party cookies.

I will attempt to write an exception for your site. If that doesn’t work I will be sad . . . but I will not enable third party cookies.

I have no idea why ‘likes’ work on some sites and not others; I will attempt to click on ‘like’ on your blog. If it does not work I will be sad . . . but I will not enable third party cookies.

None of the above applies to people who have a blog with ‘wordpress’ in the name.

I thank those who have read this far, but I fear few will, and that means there is a chance I will lose touch with some bloggers.  I will be sad . . . but I will not enable third party cookies.

That’s it. This post has ended . . . except for the stuff below.

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Note: if you are not reading this blog post at Disperser.Wordpress.com, know that it has been copied without permission, and likely is being used by someone with nefarious intention, like attracting you to a malware-infested website.  Could be they also torture small mammals.

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Please, if you are considering bestowing me recognition beyond commenting below, refrain from doing so.  I will decline blogger-to-blogger awards.   I appreciate the intent behind it, but I prefer a comment thanking me for turning you away from a life of crime, religion, or making you a better person in some other way.  That would mean something to me.

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Note: to those who may click on “like”, or rate the post; if you do not hear from me, know that I am sincerely appreciative, and I thank you for noticing what I do.

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Odd guy with odd views living an odd life during odd times.
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18 Responses to If I’m following you, read this . . .

  1. Thanks for the info. I was wondering if that was why I could only comment on blogs with WordPress.com. I don’t enable 3rd party cookies either. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  2. oneowner says:

    …and neither will I.

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    • disperser says:

      It’s interesting because the answers I got from WordPress do not match what I see in the behavior of blogs. Some I can comment without doing anything.

      I’ve tried asking the bloggers what their setting are, and most often I get back something along the lines of “Settings? There are settings?” which to me points to something else going on (probably due to advertising).

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  3. mvschulze says:

    Interesting, but possibly inciting a headache. I’ll stick gleefully to .wordpress. M :-)

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    • disperser says:

      If I were to go the ‘my own domain name route’, I would research something that gives me complete control over my site . . . WordPress don’t seems to be it (or they are not telling).

      Oddly enough, I am researching.

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  4. It is all very complicated. Even if you want to comment on a WordPress blog you need to have a WordPress blog or take the trouble to make a Gravitar which a lot of people would not want to do. At least WordPress manages to weed out a lot of weird spam that I don’t even have to look at. Amelia

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    • disperser says:

      I require an e-mail to post a comment, and that’s it.

      That means I have comments from people who do not have any of those accounts, nor do they have a gravatar.

      It works on blogs with wordpress.com in the name, but not on the other blogs unless they enabled it (many have).

      The annoying thing is that if the comment system recognizes your e-mail as one with an account, it will ask you to confirm and login, and then try to set a third party cookie, and if I block it, I can’t comment.

      HOWEVER . . . on sites that allow it I can comment if I use one of my e-mails not associated with my WordPress account.

      It’s almost as if there is a penalty of having to have third party cookies enabled if you do have an account. Like I said; annoying.

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  5. chefcrsh says:

    If I shut that off the spammers go nuts.

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  7. I read it all but I’m damned if I knew what you were talking about most of the time, me, I just blog away nobody visits my pages, except for a couple of close friends who feel obliged to to keep me happy, or perhaps to humour me in my dotage.

    It all sounded very complicated to me and I suppose it’s possible that there are others that read my rubbish and never comment or abuse me because I haven’t bothered to set my pages/ whatever up properly :):):):)

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  8. What are first-party cookies? I have saved the link you provided and will read it later. Hopefully, it will make sense.

    I used to have Google as my go-to internet source. But I found that Google will put its stamp on some of the photos I save in my Picassa file – including my own photos. I have killed all of those little “G” symbols out. Also, Google does not appear to allow any one to print out a complete article. This bites when I’m printing out something I need as a source. Also, it infuriates me when they do this to a post from my own blog. Lots going on in the internet world that I just don’t understand or like.

    Thanks for the tips, disperser.

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    • disperser says:

      When you go to a site, they will typically add a cookie to your machine. It lets them remember you when and if you come back. Cookies can also tell the site what browser you are using, what device you are using, resolution you are running, etc. all aimed to optimize the browsing experience.

      Those would be first party cookies. But, let’s say their site also has links to other places, advertisements, or other such things. Those widgets sometimes also want to track what you do and visit so they can target ads based on your interests. They will add what are called third-party (as opposed to the site you visited) cookies.

      You have a choice to allow them (most are harmless), block them, or allow them for the session only (they get erased when you exit your browser). However, my computer is always on, and the browser may be open for days on end whether I am there or not.

      You need to allow cookies for most (but not all) sites to work. You may get into some issues by blocking third party cookies (like for instance, the ads in WordPress), but my rule is ‘no third party cookies’.

      Really, it’s a preference thing, and for right now I prefer to block them.

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